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		<title>Comment on 7 Things I Learnt In Getting To The First Invoice For infome by IPitch - Pitchworthy News: Amethon, Yabble, Infome, Tradeslot</title>
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		<dc:creator>IPitch - Pitchworthy News: Amethon, Yabble, Infome, Tradeslot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] -The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, and for a startup, the journey of thousands of dollars starts with a single invoice. Sydney startup Infome celebrated its first invoice from the company&#8217;s site pickmylunch.com.au.  Founder Scott Middleton documents his challenges with his startup on his own site and wrote about sending off the first invoice and the things he learned in the process. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] -The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, and for a startup, the journey of thousands of dollars starts with a single invoice. Sydney startup Infome celebrated its first invoice from the company&#8217;s site pickmylunch.com.au.  Founder Scott Middleton documents his challenges with his startup on his own site and wrote about sending off the first invoice and the things he learned in the process. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Invoice #0000001 by IPitch - Pitchworthy News: Amethon, Yabble, Infome, Tradeslot</title>
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		<dc:creator>IPitch - Pitchworthy News: Amethon, Yabble, Infome, Tradeslot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Invoice #0000001 by 7 Things I Learnt In Getting To The First Invoice For infome &#171; Scott Middleton &#8211; Relevant, local &#38; mobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Things I Learnt In Getting To The First Invoice For infome &#171; Scott Middleton &#8211; Relevant, local &#38; mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The 7 lessons learnt from letting donttell.com.au expire by Kerhan</title>
		<link>http://scottmiddleton.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/7-lessons-learnt-from-letting-donttell-expire/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog, good honesty, nice humility :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog, good honesty, nice humility <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on TrueLocal takes a swipe at the Yellow Pages by NRI Yellow Pages</title>
		<link>http://scottmiddleton.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/truelocal-takes-a-swipe-at-the-yellow-pages/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>NRI Yellow Pages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is time I sit back and take some time doing same planning after reading your Great Posting Ideas. I have to have a clear direction of what I want .thank for share the great info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is time I sit back and take some time doing same planning after reading your Great Posting Ideas. I have to have a clear direction of what I want .thank for share the great info.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TrueLocal takes a swipe at the Yellow Pages by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,

CPL can be relatively easy to measure across all media if you take time to plan and implement your campaigns.

Convincing media to accept CPL is of course another issue and somewhat off topic. Let me just say that it can be done if you negotiate a deal that has mutual rewards.

Back to CPL Marketing: 

Getting administratively allocated 1300 numbers, via one of the many local telco resellers, is the first step. These numbers are then used in your advertising to determine which media generated the call. There is also a whole heap of business Intelligence that comes from using a system like this which can then be applied to future campaigns.  Next step is to hook up with a reporting system that allows you to measure calls and gather intelligence from each of the different media in your campaigns.

Again there are a number of organisations providing these services at affordable rates.

There are other methods of measurement and interaction with customers that can also be applied once you have 1300 numbers working for you. SMS response to 13/1300, which is now available on Telstra, Optus and Virgin networks (and hopefully Voda and Three in the not too distant future), opens up a myriad of interactive measurable marketing opportunities across all media.

SME’s, now more than ever before, have greater flexibility for their marketing mix and excellent opportunities to investigate media, in addition to Google Adwords, Yellow Pages, True Local etc, that in the past were likely out of reach. As I mentioned, in an earlier post, we are a small business within a niche market, which has a prospective audience defined very much by location. Using the above methods allows us more opportunities to run very measurable campaigns in a myriad of media that in the past we would have never considered due to cost.

As small business owners we have to constantly challenge our thinking when marketing for new business and interacting with existing customers. Even Google, which offers an easily measureable form of marketing, is very quickly pricing itself out of reach for many businesses. 

Bid prices for specific keywords in some industries have risen dramatically over recent years. Unfortunately many of these keywords are becoming unrealistically priced due to ‘directories’ and other organisations, which have no relationship to the keyword, bidding and forcing the prices up. These organisation are attempting to get users over to their websites to “search again” thereby lifting their visitor numbers which has a direct impact on their advertising revenue. The merry-go-round suits Google and the website owners as they both achieve a monetary outcome. It doesn’t necessarily suit the user and it certainly doesn’t help the smaller Adword advertisers.

You don’t have to spend too much time on Google and other search engines to realise that often, there is a whole lot of rubbish to wade through before you actually find what you need after hitting search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p>CPL can be relatively easy to measure across all media if you take time to plan and implement your campaigns.</p>
<p>Convincing media to accept CPL is of course another issue and somewhat off topic. Let me just say that it can be done if you negotiate a deal that has mutual rewards.</p>
<p>Back to CPL Marketing: </p>
<p>Getting administratively allocated 1300 numbers, via one of the many local telco resellers, is the first step. These numbers are then used in your advertising to determine which media generated the call. There is also a whole heap of business Intelligence that comes from using a system like this which can then be applied to future campaigns.  Next step is to hook up with a reporting system that allows you to measure calls and gather intelligence from each of the different media in your campaigns.</p>
<p>Again there are a number of organisations providing these services at affordable rates.</p>
<p>There are other methods of measurement and interaction with customers that can also be applied once you have 1300 numbers working for you. SMS response to 13/1300, which is now available on Telstra, Optus and Virgin networks (and hopefully Voda and Three in the not too distant future), opens up a myriad of interactive measurable marketing opportunities across all media.</p>
<p>SME’s, now more than ever before, have greater flexibility for their marketing mix and excellent opportunities to investigate media, in addition to Google Adwords, Yellow Pages, True Local etc, that in the past were likely out of reach. As I mentioned, in an earlier post, we are a small business within a niche market, which has a prospective audience defined very much by location. Using the above methods allows us more opportunities to run very measurable campaigns in a myriad of media that in the past we would have never considered due to cost.</p>
<p>As small business owners we have to constantly challenge our thinking when marketing for new business and interacting with existing customers. Even Google, which offers an easily measureable form of marketing, is very quickly pricing itself out of reach for many businesses. </p>
<p>Bid prices for specific keywords in some industries have risen dramatically over recent years. Unfortunately many of these keywords are becoming unrealistically priced due to ‘directories’ and other organisations, which have no relationship to the keyword, bidding and forcing the prices up. These organisation are attempting to get users over to their websites to “search again” thereby lifting their visitor numbers which has a direct impact on their advertising revenue. The merry-go-round suits Google and the website owners as they both achieve a monetary outcome. It doesn’t necessarily suit the user and it certainly doesn’t help the smaller Adword advertisers.</p>
<p>You don’t have to spend too much time on Google and other search engines to realise that often, there is a whole lot of rubbish to wade through before you actually find what you need after hitting search.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TrueLocal takes a swipe at the Yellow Pages by Scott Middleton</title>
		<link>http://scottmiddleton.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/truelocal-takes-a-swipe-at-the-yellow-pages/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Middleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your response. Many of the businesses I&#039;m out talking to about infome and pickmylunch.com.au say exactly the same thing.

Which is why we&#039;ve adopted the cost per lead model.

One of the biggest problems with the cost per lead model is that in many businesses it is difficult to track where your customers are coming from. And on Sensis, infome and TrueLocal&#039;s side it is also difficult to track how many leads were generated. This is why CPL is difficult to implement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your response. Many of the businesses I&#8217;m out talking to about infome and pickmylunch.com.au say exactly the same thing.</p>
<p>Which is why we&#8217;ve adopted the cost per lead model.</p>
<p>One of the biggest problems with the cost per lead model is that in many businesses it is difficult to track where your customers are coming from. And on Sensis, infome and TrueLocal&#8217;s side it is also difficult to track how many leads were generated. This is why CPL is difficult to implement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TrueLocal takes a swipe at the Yellow Pages by Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a small business in the health industry and have found online media, in its many forms, the most cost effective method to reach our market. ROI is easily measured and spend (CPC), in many cases, can be adjusted when required to meet market conditions; example holiday periods etc. 
Yellow Online, has been an excellent source of new business for us however print (when we used it 8 or 9 years ago) was basically useless. Yellow Print cost per call was over six times that of its online cousin. Other print mediums, example local press, are also a waste of money, for our type of business. 
Whilst spend in Yellow Online is a fixed increasing cost it still gives excellent ROI however we are also very lucky we got in very early and have top positioning in all our service categories. I don&#039;t think we would achieve the same result if we were not above the fold (search results 1 - 5).
True Local does have reasonable ROI however nowhere near the reach of Yellow Online. True Local, is, at best, a reasonable addition to the marketing mix however definitely not a replacement.
The biggest issue with Yellow is the way they carve up their offerings: Yellow Online, Yellow Mobile, 1234, etc. etc. It seems there is a new variation of the same product hitting the market fairly regularly and each one has a fixed per annum cost. 
Our spend with Google is over five times our spend with Yellow because it is absolutely measurable. Each new product coming out of Sensis requires us to invest for a year and hope we get a result. As a business advertising in over 10 categories, we are better off increasing spend in Google and its Networks, where we can measure the result and adjust spend accordingly from day one, rather than take a risk on another Sensis derivative. We can measure Sensis results however the spend is committed for a year so if it doesn&#039;t work the investment is lost.  Sensis rely on existing advertisers to be the early adopters (the risk takers) or potentially miss the boat on getting in early and therefore achieving best positioning. Great if the medium works, not so good if it fails. If Sensis were to adopt a Cost Per Lead model, for their Yellow derivatives, SME’s would more willingly advertise.

What is interesting is that other media will consider measureable models. We have had approaches, in recent times, from Radio and Magazine Publishers, who, when pushed, will provide distressed advertising on a CPL basis. No lead no cost marketing opens up opportunities for all stakeholders. The media is going to air or publishing anyway. Better to have an advertiser, willing to pay for leads rather than no one at all, when there are still spots to fill at deadline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a small business in the health industry and have found online media, in its many forms, the most cost effective method to reach our market. ROI is easily measured and spend (CPC), in many cases, can be adjusted when required to meet market conditions; example holiday periods etc.<br />
Yellow Online, has been an excellent source of new business for us however print (when we used it 8 or 9 years ago) was basically useless. Yellow Print cost per call was over six times that of its online cousin. Other print mediums, example local press, are also a waste of money, for our type of business.<br />
Whilst spend in Yellow Online is a fixed increasing cost it still gives excellent ROI however we are also very lucky we got in very early and have top positioning in all our service categories. I don&#8217;t think we would achieve the same result if we were not above the fold (search results 1 &#8211; 5).<br />
True Local does have reasonable ROI however nowhere near the reach of Yellow Online. True Local, is, at best, a reasonable addition to the marketing mix however definitely not a replacement.<br />
The biggest issue with Yellow is the way they carve up their offerings: Yellow Online, Yellow Mobile, 1234, etc. etc. It seems there is a new variation of the same product hitting the market fairly regularly and each one has a fixed per annum cost.<br />
Our spend with Google is over five times our spend with Yellow because it is absolutely measurable. Each new product coming out of Sensis requires us to invest for a year and hope we get a result. As a business advertising in over 10 categories, we are better off increasing spend in Google and its Networks, where we can measure the result and adjust spend accordingly from day one, rather than take a risk on another Sensis derivative. We can measure Sensis results however the spend is committed for a year so if it doesn&#8217;t work the investment is lost.  Sensis rely on existing advertisers to be the early adopters (the risk takers) or potentially miss the boat on getting in early and therefore achieving best positioning. Great if the medium works, not so good if it fails. If Sensis were to adopt a Cost Per Lead model, for their Yellow derivatives, SME’s would more willingly advertise.</p>
<p>What is interesting is that other media will consider measureable models. We have had approaches, in recent times, from Radio and Magazine Publishers, who, when pushed, will provide distressed advertising on a CPL basis. No lead no cost marketing opens up opportunities for all stakeholders. The media is going to air or publishing anyway. Better to have an advertiser, willing to pay for leads rather than no one at all, when there are still spots to fill at deadline.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I hate the word compromise by Chasing the tail you really want</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chasing the tail you really want</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Many still use the Yellow Pages &#124; Net Magellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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